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Jonathan Michael Huls's avatar

Greetings Dr. Elijah!

Thanks for an interesting article. I agree with some of the other comments that there is a contingency problem with grounding knowledge at the phenomenological level. Pain after all is just information with a proper-function. If we add a utilitarian/consequentialist layer to this conversation, then pain can be a contingent-good that motivates a free-agent to remove their hand from a hot-stove, thus motivating the prevention of a permanent injury.

By sending a warning through the physical nervous system, pain can be a great-good in that it preserves the integrity of the organism. Might “integrity” and “disintegration” be a more cogent paradigm through which to understand modifiers like “good” and “bad”? This question is something that I’m researching in my own PhD work.

Where does integrated-information ultimately come from, and why is it ordered in such a way that it bucks entropy and motivates the preservation of human integrity and being?

Here’s what I’m trying to get at. There’s an epistemological regress that is begged if we try to ground knowledge at the phenomenological level. We have to go deeper—to the teleological level—and then even deeper, to the ontological level. We need a locus for objective human-meaning simpliciter, not just for our subjective moral-knowledge.

Thus, I think any satisfactory ground for moral-knowledge must take Kierkegaard’s leap and move beyond intuitional non-naturalism to a robust ontological supernaturalism. We need a foundation of the Good that is not bound to the law of entropy. I’m not satisfied by either Goff's panpsychism or Moore’s intuitionism on this basis—and I can see no other consistent solution to the ‘is/ought’ and Euthyphro problems either.

Life itself bucks Schrodinger’s paradox (entropy), and all conceptions of the Good concern a properly integrated human-life. Thus, I cannot as yet see a more satisfying explanation of moral facts than the Natural-Law theory that human-beings are contingently analogous to their Creator—The Morally Perfect-Being (Anselm).

What a non-naturalist would call moral-intuition; I call conscience and moral reason with a veritable taproot into the Divine-Life (C.S. Lewis contra David Hume in: Miracles).

In any case, any realist-theory of moral-knowledge must supply a satisfying ontology for moral-facts. Facts are the substance of knowledge (Aristotle). Moral facts are required to ground a “justified true-account” (Theaetetus) of any rational interpretation of the phenomenological that rises to the definition of what we call “knowledge.”

I would enjoy an article from your non-naturalist moral-realist perspective that attempts to ground moral-facts.

I really enjoy your work. Please keep it up!

JMH

Luke L's avatar

First off, I really enjoyed your post. I recently wrote a post about how I think we can have moral knowledge through experience despite the fact that I think that we don’t have direct access to value through experience.

I think the badness of pain is a good counter example, but I don’t think it should be generalized further than that.

I think you should check out my post on the illusion of experienced value. It would be fun to see your thoughts.

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